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by SunshineYoun
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@skogen wrote:
@Feurio wrote:Vast difference between sexual and asexual isn't there? :DThe 'a' kind of changes everything no, it kind of doesn't, which is the flaw at the core of atheism. if a person were truly non-religious, they wouldn't be labeling themselves as anything, in regards to the spectrum of religion. a person calling themself an atheist isn't shunning the core concept of religion. they are simply taking a public stance against what they don't agree with. they aren't bypassing the system, in any way. atheism is the religion of negation, but it's still a religion to its "card-carrying" members.it would be like saying that if the idea of god is religious, then its antithesis, the idea of satan, is non-religious. that is ridiculous. they are simply two ends of the same imaginary magnet. they are both a part of the same game, like theism and atheism.as for asexuality, if a person were truly able to exist and live their life without sex and gender, they wouldn't be thinking about those concepts often enough to go out of their way to label themself as "asexual", in the first place. they would simply "be", without the trappings of needing to define their sexual status.. one can never oppose the system they choose to operate within.
@Feurio wrote:Vast difference between sexual and asexual isn't there? :DThe 'a' kind of changes everything no, it kind of doesn't, which is the flaw at the core of atheism. if a person were truly non-religious, they wouldn't be labeling themselves as anything, in regards to the spectrum of religion. a person calling themself an atheist isn't shunning the core concept of religion. they are simply taking a public stance against what they don't agree with. they aren't bypassing the system, in any way. atheism is the religion of negation, but it's still a religion to its "card-carrying" members.it would be like saying that if the idea of god is religious, then its antithesis, the idea of satan, is non-religious. that is ridiculous. they are simply two ends of the same imaginary magnet. they are both a part of the same game, like theism and atheism.as for asexuality, if a person were truly able to exist and live their life without sex and gender, they wouldn't be thinking about those concepts often enough to go out of their way to label themself as "asexual", in the first place. they would simply "be", without the trappings of needing to define their sexual status.. one can never oppose the system they choose to operate within.
It's not the fault with atheism, it's the fault of society, again a vast difference. But this too depends on where the perosn lives, if I say that I'm an atheist in Sweden then nobody gives a fuck, but suppose I go and visit the southern states of USA then suddenly this distinction can be useful.
Of course I shun religion, I'm by definition not a religious person.
How does an athest bypass a system in a religious country, well, this goes without saying that a person cannot do such a thing, but onec an take a stance against religion but that does not make it a religion in any sense of the word.
No supernatural beliefs, no songs to sing, no buildings to gather in, no beliefs I must hold, we don't do things that are expected of religious folks. And that's the good part.
Go to church? No, I'll stay home, do something better.
", then its antithesis, the idea of satan, is non-religious"
No, Satan is part of religion, neither Satan or God are part of being an atheist.
But it is possible to be a religious atheist, like buddhists, they have things to do, things to live by, that's pretty much one of the few cases that being an atheist does not get rid of religion in ones own beliefs and thus actions.
"they wouldn't be thinking about those concepts often enough to go out of their way to label themself as "asexual""
Yes they would. Again, being sexual is the norm, if someone asks why a person is not involved in this good part of life, they will say that they are asexual. What does it mean to be asexual, well, even that can differ from person to person.
"one can never oppose the system they choose to operate within"
It's not an option to opt out of society, being that we are a social animal to begin with.
Atheists in say Saudiarabia have no chance to skip a religious society but they can try to sway society into something else, it might even become just another state where religion does not rule.
Then the religious will have to live in a secular state no matter their own beliefs, things are just reserved and likely this would lead to a better society to begin with. For instance open the doors to more religions, now they have to compete for its costumers, no-one has monopoly in such a society for ideas.
And that's something to work for..
A believer might say:
I am a Christian.. (nothing wrong with that)
and I would say
I am an atheist, and there's nothing at all with that either. It's what I am, not what society is or should be.
“I think religion should be treated with ridicule, hatred, and contempt, and I claim that right.” ~ Christopher Hitchens
"An infinite God ought to be able to protect himself, without going in partnership with State Legislatures. Certainly he ought not so to act that laws become necessary to keep him from being laughed at." - Robert Green Ingersoll (1833-1899)
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@skogen wrote:
no, it kind of doesn't, which is the flaw at the core of atheism. if a person were truly non-religious, they wouldn't be labeling themselves as anything, in regards to the spectrum of religion. a person calling themself an atheist isn't shunning the core concept of religion. they are simply taking a public stance against what they don't agree with. they aren't bypassing the system, in any way. atheism is the religion of negation, but it's still a religion to its "card-carrying" members.it would be like saying that if the idea of god is religious, then its antithesis, the idea of satan, is non-religious. that is ridiculous. they are simply two ends of the same imaginary magnet. they are both a part of the same game, like theism and atheism.as for asexuality, if a person were truly able to exist and live their life without sex and gender, they wouldn't be thinking about those concepts often enough to go out of their way to label themself as "asexual", in the first place. they would simply "be", without the trappings of needing to define their sexual status.. one can never oppose the system they choose to operate within.
no, it kind of doesn't, which is the flaw at the core of atheism. if a person were truly non-religious, they wouldn't be labeling themselves as anything, in regards to the spectrum of religion. a person calling themself an atheist isn't shunning the core concept of religion. they are simply taking a public stance against what they don't agree with. they aren't bypassing the system, in any way. atheism is the religion of negation, but it's still a religion to its "card-carrying" members.it would be like saying that if the idea of god is religious, then its antithesis, the idea of satan, is non-religious. that is ridiculous. they are simply two ends of the same imaginary magnet. they are both a part of the same game, like theism and atheism.as for asexuality, if a person were truly able to exist and live their life without sex and gender, they wouldn't be thinking about those concepts often enough to go out of their way to label themself as "asexual", in the first place. they would simply "be", without the trappings of needing to define their sexual status.. one can never oppose the system they choose to operate within.
by postbopgaze
43 / M / US
@Feurio wrote:
Vast difference between sexual and asexual isn't there? :DThe 'a' kind of changes everything
Vast difference between sexual and asexual isn't there? :DThe 'a' kind of changes everything
no, it kind of doesn't, which is the flaw at the core of atheism.
if a person were truly non-religious, they wouldn't be labeling themselves as anything, in regards to the spectrum of religion. a person calling themself an atheist isn't shunning the core concept of religion. they are simply taking a public stance against what they don't agree with. they aren't bypassing the system, in any way. atheism is the religion of negation, but it's still a religion to its "card-carrying" members.
it would be like saying that if the idea of god is religious, then its antithesis, the idea of satan, is non-religious. that is ridiculous. they are simply two ends of the same imaginary magnet. they are both a part of the same game, like theism and atheism.
as for asexuality, if a person were truly able to exist and live their life without sex and gender, they wouldn't be thinking about those concepts often enough to go out of their way to label themself as "asexual", in the first place. they would simply "be", without the trappings of needing to define their sexual status..
one can never oppose the system they choose to operate within.
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